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We spend too much time at work for it to be a miserable experience! Join JoDee Curtis and Susan White as they discuss human resources and leadership topics with a goal of creating work environments where people can find their joy. If you want to learn about important workplace topics with a splash of joy (and earn SHRM credit!) this is the show for you.
We spend too much time at work for it to be a miserable experience! Join JoDee Curtis and Susan White as they discuss human resources and leadership topics with a goal of creating work environments where people can find their joy. If you want to learn about important workplace topics with a splash of joy (and earn SHRM credit!) this is the show for you.
Episodes

Monday Oct 06, 2025
Surviving Layoffs
Monday Oct 06, 2025
Monday Oct 06, 2025
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss getting through reductions in force.
Topics include:
- Best practices for organizations who are shrinking their workforces
- Recommendations for the employees who remain with the company
- Advice for employees who are impacted by layoffs
In this episode's listener mail, we're asked about team building recommendations for teams who aren't in the same location. In the news, we talk about avoiding toxic positivity.
Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-231-surviving-layoffs/
A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-231-surviving-layoffs/
To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on October 6, 2026)
Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered
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Monday Sep 22, 2025
How to Be an Engaging Facilitator (with Erin Fischer and Mike McRee)
Monday Sep 22, 2025
Monday Sep 22, 2025
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss facilitation with experts Erin Fischer and Mike McRee.
Topics include:
- The difference between presenting and facilitating
- The 70/30 rule
- Relationship currency and how it applies to effective facilitation
- How to engage adults who are used to boring PowerPoints
- The camp model
- Habits of the best facilitators
In this episode's listener mail, we're asked about recommendations for employers that don't have the budget for childcare options. In the news, we discuss the 2024 book "The Generous Leader" by Joe Davis.
Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-230-how-to-be-an-engaging-facilitator/
A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-230-how-to-be-an-engaging-facilitator/
To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on September 22, 2026)
Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered
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Monday Sep 08, 2025
The Silver Workforce: Older Adults Who Stay at Work
Monday Sep 08, 2025
Monday Sep 08, 2025
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss older adults who are staying in or returning to the workforce.
Topics include:
- The statistics on the silver workforce
- Why older adults are choosing to remain in or return to the workforce
- Intergenerational collaboration
- Ageism and bias
- The future of retirement
- The upsides of working later in life
In this episode's listener question, we're asked about helping employees continue to apply concepts after a training ends. In the news, work culture in the US can vary regionally and by industry.
Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-229-the-silver-workforce/
A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-229-the-silver-workforce/
To get 0.25 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on September 8, 2026)
Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered
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Monday Aug 25, 2025
Workplace Romance: Finding Love at Work (with Bill White)
Monday Aug 25, 2025
Monday Aug 25, 2025
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss romance in the workplace, with a special appearance from Susan's husband Bill White.
Topics include:
- The statistics on workplace romance
- The risks workplace romances can create for organizations
- Policies to help avoid the pitfalls
- How Susan found love at work
In this episode's listener question, we're asked about driving diversity in the current political climate. In the news, starting in 2026, the state of Washington will require unpaid leave and safety accommodations for victims of a hate crime.
Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-228-workplace-romance/
A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-228-workplace-romance/
To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on August 25, 2026)
Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered
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Monday Aug 11, 2025
Using AI in HR (with Josh Greenwald)
Monday Aug 11, 2025
Monday Aug 11, 2025
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss practical applications of artificial intelligence in the HR space with Josh Greenwald.
Topics include:
- Common areas where AI is helping HR
- How AI is being leveraged in businesses today
- AI-enabled transformation Josh led at Elevance Health
- Evolving trends in HR service delivery
- Practical applications of AI in HR that have been done well
- Resistance to AI adoption
- Advice for listeners looking to build a future-ready talent strategy in the AI area
In this episode's listener question, we're asked how we got started with the show and how we choose topics. In the news, younger generations are more likely to say they'd rather be unemployed than have a job that makes them unhappy.
Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-227-using-ai-in-hr/
A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-227-using-ai-in-hr/
To get 0.25 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on August 11, 2026)
Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered
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Monday Jul 28, 2025
Monday Jul 28, 2025
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss the upcoming anthology book, "Joy@Work: When Women Lead" with three of the authors - Gretchen Schott, Jill Lehman, and Sarah Turner.
Topics include:
- Leading with love
- Taking a you-powered approach to your career
- Building your resilience skills
In this episode's listener question, we're asked about the best training tools for the shift from in-person to remote training platforms. In the news, personal happiness is a major driver for a satisfying work life, not the other way around.
Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-226-joy-at-work/
A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-226-joy-at-work/
To get 0.75 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on July 28, 2026)
Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered
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Monday Jul 14, 2025
Why Business Etiquette Matters (with Pamela Eyring)
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss the importance of business etiquette and cultural training with Pamela Eyring, president and owner of The Protocol School of Washington.
Topics include:
- How skills learned from protocol and business etiquette are central to building relationships and advancing your career
- When lack of protocol leads to confusion, conflict, and missed opportunities
- The value of protocol in today's fast-paced, informal work culture
- How formalizing etiquette practices impacts culture, leadership, and external reputation
In this episode's listener question, we're asked about the differences and similarities of in-house recruiters and recruiting staffing firms. In the news, we discuss the link between employee well-being and productivity.
Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-225-why-business-etiquette-matters/
A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-225-why-business-etiquette-matters/
To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on July 14, 2026)
Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered
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Monday Jun 30, 2025
Gen Z at Work
Monday Jun 30, 2025
Monday Jun 30, 2025
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss Generation Z in the workplace with five Gen Z professionals: Anna Park, Kyle Curtis, Liam Hogan, Mary Gillett, and Ben Holdcraft.
Topics include:
- What motivates our Gen Zers at work
- How these Gen Zers like to be communicated with
- The things that annoy these Gen Zers in the workplace
- What brings them joy at work
- What other generations can do to help Gen Z employees bring their best selves to work
- Surprises and takeaways we found in our conversations with Gen Zers
In this episode's listener question, we're asked how to help a bad boss change their leadership style if they're not open to feedback or suggestions. In the news, a cocktail server is bringing a lawsuit against her former employer after they terminated her for not wearing high heels to work, despite her request for accommodation due to plantar fasciitis.
Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-224-gen-z-at-work/
A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-224-gen-z-at-work/
To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on June 30, 2026)
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Monday Jun 16, 2025
Monday Jun 16, 2025
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss the upcoming anthology book, "Joy@Work: When Women Lead" with three of the authors - MeChelle Callen, Kerrie Weinzapfel, and our own JoDee Curtis.
Topics include:
- Eliminating "just" from your vocabulary
- Owning your superpowers
- Turning endings into positive steps forward
In this episode's listener question, we're asked how in-house recruiters can be better partners to the business. In the news, fully remote workers are the most likely to be engaged at work, but less likely to be thriving in their lives.
Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-223-joy-at-work/
A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-223-joy-at-work/
To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on June 16, 2026)
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Monday Jun 02, 2025
[Rebroadcast] Generational Diversity (with Lindsay Boccardo)
Monday Jun 02, 2025
Monday Jun 02, 2025
This week we're rerunning a 2023 episode on a topic we often get suggestions about: different generations in the workplace!
In this episode, JoDee and Susan discuss generational diversity at work with coach/speaker Lindsay Boccardo.
Topics include:
- What's different with Gen Z compared to Millennials
- What employers are doing to continue to evolve with the needs of newer employees
- What organizations can do to retain more seasoned leaders
- How coaching skills help bring generationally diverse teams together
- How Lindsay's perspective has changed regarding generations at work, culture, and employee engagement
- What people do in this area that sucks the joy out of work
Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-161-generational-diversity/
A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-161-generational-diversity/
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